Sheng Li (gmachine1729) wrote,
Sheng Li

Lenovo is no longer really a Chinese company

Originally published at Когда нас в бой пошлёт товарищ Путин и маршал Шойгу в бой нас поведёт!. You can comment here or there.

Most of this reality about Lenovo is all stuff I learned after I returned to China. I was reminded of Lenovo through this article by Andrei Vltchek

where there was

No one is talking about it openly, but, let us face it: those U.S.-made planes are crashing; the performance of Apple phones and computers is falling far behind those made by Huawei and other Chinese companies. Lenovo took over IBM and is doing extremely well. NASA is absolutely incapable of building decent rockets that would be able to deliver people or even satellites to space, cheaply and safely.

Seeing that I commented,

Lenovo is actually widely despised now in China. Its founder Liu Chuanzhi essentially sold out a state owned company to US (Lenovo is now actually a US company headquartered in America) as part of Thinkpad purchase. Their PCs sell more expensively in China than in US (Liu Chuanzhi and Lenovo manipulated some contract where Chinese government buys Lenovo PCs in bulk). People in China now call Liu Chuanzhi a hanjian.

And his daughter Liu Qing became CEO of Didi Chuxing (like Uber) after becoming managing director at Goldman Sachs in Hong Kong. Didi laid off 15% of their staff early this year and there was a rape/murder case that triggered outrage last year. Its reputation in China is not very good. And Liu Chuanzhi’s niece is head of Uber China, and Liu Chuanzhi also owns some other big taxi related business. It’s some pretty sick nepotism.

I learned of this from this Chinese games programmer. He was basically like, Liu Chuanzhi, Liu Qing, the harder they work the more damage they do. And I read that Lenovo even tried to attack Huawei.

There is not much serious technology in Lenovo, its basically a PC assembly job, based off Windows and Intel. A guy high up there in the 90s wanted to develop CPU but Liu Chuanzhi forced him out.

Back in the 2000s Lenovo’s purchase of IBM ThinkPad was big deal. As part of it, Lenovo moved headquarters to North Carolina. And I remember I saw some US magazine with Bill Gates of China, which was on Yang Yuanqing, Lenovo’s CEO back when I was still a kid.

I was told that Liu Chuanzhi back in the days presented himself as a 民族英雄 (ethnic/national hero) and fooled a lot of people, but nowadays, the attitude towards him in China is mostly one of get the fuck out. People mock him and his company derisively as 美帝良心.

Liu Chuanzhi’s father I learned from online graduated university in Shanghai in 1944 and later was involved in People’s Bank of China and also patent law. Some speculate that he had kowtowed to the Japanese back then. Some of the stuff online portrayed the family as 红色家庭, with Liu Chuanzhi himself a CPC member.

Lenovo is not doing well now, their stock has gone down a ton. I think they made a smartphone that flopped and with people moving to mobile, their PC sales aren’t doing all that great either. They’re not really so much a technology company as much as they are a comprador company posing as a technology one.

And I had read in December that now deceased former Stanford theoretical physics professor Shoucheng Zhang summer of 2018 (or around that time) joined Lenovo’s board of directors, when I was not yet aware of the dark side of that company. I only got the impression of this high up guy trying to get more power, money, and titles for himself.

Certainly, my opinion of him is lowered somewhat by this. I don’t think Shoucheng Zhang’s family fit in terribly well in China after the PRC was founded. In some talk he gave to Chinese-American kids at Stanford, the video of which can be found on YouTube, he spoke of his having uncles who had college education in humanities during 民国 period, along with his parents’ being engineers. Certainly, their family was in or close to the intellectual elite, at the very least well educated. I had spoken to this Chinese physicist about how this kind of background would leave many Chinese full of envy, how it was so high up, and his response was one of “they were not actually at the very top, just very well off.” And what he said that made me laugh was


(How would Old Mao judge them? To Old Mao, even many Beijing University professors are shit.)

Then he was like how he doesn’t have terribly high opinion of Mao, but even so, Mao’s entire spirit was so much higher than that of the four powerful families of ROC (Song, Kong, Chiang, Chen).

I remember in that video Zhang spoke rather caustically of the Cultural Revolution and seemed to very much identify with America, with the idea of building a bridge between US and China, with the idea that the second generation Chinese actually have a real future in America, which now seems rather ridiculous. But you know, this is a Stanford theoretical physicist and venture capitalist, because of his position, what he says can be difficult to challenge. Now that he is dead, it’s much easier to rebut.

Fang Zhouzi lambasted Zhang’s being a devout Christian. Now, it’s not really fair to judge a person based on religious beliefs. Still, being realistic I’m aware that having certain religious beliefs and promoting them especially can in certain circles help or hurt you politically, and some guy who had spent time at Harvard had speculated that Zhang and his family did this partly to gain more acceptance in American society. It is likely that people in his family went to schools and universities started by American Christians in China, like that St. John’s School in Shanghai or Yenching University in Beijing, both of which after the PRC was formed had their names changed and/or resources merged into other schools. Likely, they still identified with much of that old system.

In any case, an ethnic Chinese being an evangelical Christian is just kind of weird. That will surely disqualify you for positions of political power in China. It was the party’s birthday a few days ago and as a matter of fact, party members are not allowed to have religious association. Again, Americans might complain freedom of religion, I think that’s bullshit, it’s more about a balance of power between religions and ideologies. If you have power and the gun, as the Chinese communists gained in 49, you can more or less discriminate against people not like you with impunity if you want to. The people actively in the Crusades certainly did not give a damn about freedom of religion. If you are a minority in terms of your religion or ideology either go somewhere where you will be part of the majority or live a more marginalized existence. Generally, if you don’t aspire for money or political power, nobody will care to discriminate against you much because there would be little for them to gain or lose from doing so. If you are based on your ethnicity or religion or ideology discriminated against or marginalized or even cleansed (as the Native Americans were), then maybe you deserve sympathy or maybe you are to blame for being too weak to defend yourself. To those protestors in Hong Kong and politically unwanted ethnic Chinese forced out of mainland China, one can easily say, “If you’re so great, why couldn’t you even maintain control over that piece of territory? Why were you so military weak and incompetent to actually be forced out of it?” This is rather harsh but it is still the reality.

There is no such thing as freedom of speech either, only control over media. Crudely speaking, CPC controls Chinese media, and Zionists control US media. If you are banned or silenced, that is because the channel you are on is controlled by people who want to and can silence you. For one’s speech, there are always consequences of varying degree. Often, it’s a double edged sword. This applies to my blog as well, as well as to, say, SC Zhang’s kids or Jeremy Lin promoting Christianity online.

With political questions, there is usually no objective right or wrong as there is in science. Instead, you become right by overpowering your opponent, via media, via economics, via military, etc.

Tags: psychopathy, цензура/censorship, 中国/китай, 性格, 电子硬件公司, 美国亚裔, 联想

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