Steve Hsu(徐道辉)

Originally published at 狗和留美者不得入内. You can comment here or there.

以前挺崇拜这个人的，现在评价对他越来越低了。他能力的确很强，而且很全面，能拿到美国不错或至少还可以的大学的理论物理终身教职，同样还创办了网络安全公司以26百万被收购，能够破竹子天花板当上大学高层行政人员，而且体育也强，中学搞了游泳比赛，大学打了橄榄球，后来还搞柔道，这种混合才华是少见的。对，他还研究智商和基因的关系，最近为此创办了公司，在这方面在美国也颇有影响力。然后他的博客每个月有十万多点击。可是呢，他没有一项做到最好或接近最好，理论物理，大陆过来的比他强的至少好几个，张首晟强得多了。硅谷创业一个26百万的收购也真的不算啥。体育他离专业水平就更远了。

我最近得知他开创的那家公司还把一个翻墙的工具在01年的时候部署到了中国，为此他拿了CIA的钱，并且得到了纽约时报及其他美国主流媒体的宣传。

• https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/NEWSMAKER-PROFILE-Stephen-Hsu-CEO-says-2882153.php
• https://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/30/world/united-states-backs-plan-to-help-chinese-evade-government-censorship-of-web.html
• http://www.webrant.com/safeweb_site/html/www/pressroom/voa_release.pdf
• http://www.webrant.com/safeweb_site/html/www/pressroom/saudi_release.pdf
• https://washingtontechnology.com/articles/2001/08/24/cia-incubator-technologies-ready-for-active-duty.aspx
• https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn458-false-identity/
• https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2001/sep/01/china.usnews
• http://edition.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/08/29/voice.of.america/index.html
• http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2264508.stm
• http://articles.latimes.com/2001/sep/10/news/mn-44111

我跟一位体制内背景的人说了他，那个人也对徐产生了兴趣，可是对他评价也不是特别高。总而言之，觉得徐有政治能力但是是那种符合美国已形成的体制和文化谋取成功的政治能力，做的更多一种模型美国亚裔，很优秀但是还是服从体系的，为了自己的事业发展不敢对其作出任何挑战。反而，这人觉得我的政治能力从某种角度更强，比如我的博客写的东西有点含量，不像徐那些只不过是引用别的文章或视频自己也就做点小评论。我的反应是徐的做法的确是那种比较现实主义的，没什么错或不好，挑战权威反而经常才是愚蠢的破坏自己事业的做法我告诉了那个人徐是蒋介石的远亲并且他开的公司所做的。他说若不是那个，徐或许在中国还能拿个政协委员，觉得他做了那个并在NYT宣传之比网上骂骂反tg还要严重。徐总是强调统计严谨，强调自己是理论物理学家，用什么controlling for all other variables including family wealth and legacy status, Asian-Americans are significantly less likely to get admitted，这类的一般人不愿意听的语言。他再强调客观再强调不要情绪化，我也能看出他对中国的一些问题的回避心理。他是蒋介石的远亲，父亲解放前赴美读博并留下了，家里保持了反共的政治姿态，他和他哥哥都考虑了去美国的军事学校，并且他也在他博客强调他父亲是一位patriotic American。用另一句话说，他是买办亡国奴的后代，他再有能力，很多中国人也会瞧不起他，甚至仇恨他。与祖国从新建立关系的机会他不是没有，九十年代零零年代他都有机会，可是零零年代初，他却拿了CIA的钱，赌了在中国搞和平演变的那套，现在事实或许让他心里难以接受，自己也意识到了他自己的孩子随着中美关系未来二十年只会更加恶化的国际形势在美国不会有太好的前途。其实我觉得他的孩子不会太差，有这样的美国喜欢的相对信任的国民党买办家庭背景，有他那么好的基因，能力也不会差，美国给华裔的好位置还是会他们优先，只不过如果中美真正特别闹翻了，他们的日子也不会太好。

徐最近自己办了个节目，视频放到YouTube上，关于中国，他选择了采访Kaiser Kuo，也是国民党背景在美国长大的人，不过这人倒是八九十年代就在中国工作了，搞了什么摇滚出了名，后来给百度做了公关。那个视频我懒得看，美国华人，尤其那些没在中国长大的，讲中国的大多是垃圾，就很快翻了翻语音记录，就完了。

在评论里，他写了个

最后他还表示自己觉得美国和其盟友孤立中国会对他心中的祖国美国有帮助。为此，我这么回了他

China already has nation wide face recognition deployment. When you check into hotels, for instance, they match a photo they take of you with the one on your id card. AI is mostly an engineering, I don’t see that much point in much of the AI theory research done in academia. Neural nets/backpropagation is something any good theoretical physicist could have come up with given the right motivation. Back when it was discovered in the 70s, there was not enough computing power for it to be useful so it was still treated much as a curiosity/theoretical construct. So I don’t regard the idea itself as that valuable even. It’s more about the later refinement and implementation at scale.

China seems much faster at getting shit done. Like, food delivery and mobile payment is already well implemented and taken for granted in China. It has to do with that Chinese work hard and efficiently and it also has to do that they make decisions faster, much less time wasted arguing.

Not that a decoupling wouldn’t hurt, but that it’s too late for it to be decisive.

Decoupling would only benefit China. If you examine closely, China has not gotten much from direct interaction with America in modern times. What America has given China is mostly a destructive comprador class coupled with toxic liberal ideology. Forcibly seizing their assets and investing such capital into industry and modernization back in the 50s has proven to be decisive to where China is today.

Even after the reform and opening up, what genuinely critical technology has China actually gotten directly from America? It’s really difficult to think of. Most of the core technology China has developed was done by domestic institutions and in the case of the military ones, with some input from Russia and Ukraine. I can’t think of any Chinese institution that actually developed serious technology while interacting closely with America. Lenovo the PC maker is basically a PC assembly shop based off Intel and Windows that moved its headquarters to USA after the IBM Thinkpad purchase, nothing to write home about. Its founder is now widely despised in China. On the other hand, Huawei has developed some serious technology, and its founder never had any experience abroad. His company doesn’t IPO and he doesn’t ever go to America to status whore with Silicon Valley billionaires the way Jack Ma does. I’ve even heard from government people in China that Jack Ma is going to end up in jail eventually, which I found hard to believe.

Plenty within the former rich and educated in China supported the Chinese communists, and they were naturally integrated into the new system with high positions. They gave up some of their wealth for the greater good and after that they were still much better off than the average Chinese. Unfortunately, there was also a group of 买办亡国奴 who thought it was a better idea to continue to act as puppets for a nation and race that treats them like dogs and only rewards them to the extent that they are useful while entertaining delusions of superiority. Shame, shame, shame…

链接：http://disq.us/p/209dnfj。

我觉得那些国民党跑到海外的华人精英也形成的他们的圈子和社区，他们好多的确能力很强，在美国混的很好，出了一些非常出名的科学家和科技创业家。那个人，他反而觉得那些人都不算一个真正群体，他说的原因我记不清了，群体还算吧，他们也有自己的identity(身份认同)，只不过在我眼中不是什么好的，而是本质上受制于人的identity。

我在美国的时候还试了为徐创建一个百度百科页，可是老是通不过，最后放弃了，当时对他还很有好感，现在呢，就呵呵了。。。